Verticality

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Last week in my game, me and my defender were waiting for the disc to come down and as it was I jumped over my check (people say I have a nice vertical) and caught it, but in doing so we made contact.


"All players have the right to the space immediately above them. Thus, a player cannot prevent an opponent from making an attempt on a pass by reaching over an opponent. Should contact occur before the outcome of the play is determined, it is a foul on the player restricting the vertical space."


My defender called a foul saying that he had the right to the disc, but I was over top of the disc at the same time. Was he right in calling the foul?

There's not quite enough info there to make a call without seeing it.


If you prevented him from attempting a play on the disc by being over him, then it is your

foul if there's contact (regardless of where the disc is).


If he was able to make an attempt at the disc, then it's definitely no vertical space foul

(regardless of wether you were above him or not).


If there was any contact at all though that affected the outcome of the play, then that may

have been a foul as well.


So, as you see depending on the exact details either one of you could have been in the right

(or wrong).


Yah to temple... from what you said it sounds to me like the contact might have been something like your foot bumped his leg or whatnot. Generally contact like that is incidental and isn't a foul. Contact that prevents another player from making a bid is a foul, so if you knocked him out of your way on your jump, then it's definitely a foul.

Before we start of yet another thorough and perfectly valid discourse on the "letter of the law", I might add this in the "spirit of the game"...


Preconditions:


1. was there contact? That's pretty easy.


2. Did the contact affect the outcome of the play? This is almost always the issue.


If the contacted party thinks so, then it is so. You may feel they are delusional - and they may very well be - but your contact kinda' prevented them from making their case. If this seems wildly unfair, simply contest, and do over. (Note: If they truly are delusional, banging them about the head and shoulders while playing would never be advisable.)


A clever reader will notice a graceful avoidance of precondition #1 will eliminate any discussions regarding precondition #2.


I'll leave the technical details to the experts.


the arm chair philosopher